VA State Parks pet fee

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  1. DansAndDogs

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    I think this is the proper forum for me to rant about the pet fee that VA State Parks charge. Let me preface this by saying that I have two VERY well behaved Labs. I don't have a problem with a fee, I can understand that it could potentially lead to higher maintainance costs if dogs chewed up the swingset or something. But the fee in VA State Parks is $5 PER DOG.....PER NIGHT!!! This is ridiculous. There is no way that an additional $10 (in my case) is justified per night. It appears to me that VA is attempting to dissuade pet owners from staying in their Parks. I just don't understand this highly over-priced fee. I would love to hear from others who either agree (lets me know I'm not alone), and from those who don't think this fee is too high...and why.

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  2. Matt O

    Matt O Strangers are friends who have not yet met

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    If you are camping and in the woods that means there are other animals around that can do the same damage (or more) as your dogs potentially can. I can see a $5 fee PER VISIT PER CAMPSITE as a way to increase revenue to help repair items that the dog vandals damage. I wouldn't complain about that fee. But per night is absurd.

    I used to work in hotels which are notorious for not allowing pets. I read an article in a trade magazine on the subject that basically said pets do less damage than people. No dog has ever skipped out on a room bill, sued for some dumb reason, set fire to a room, broken a TV, so on and do forth.

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    You are not alone, that is absurd. What damage is a dog going to do to the campsite that the local wildlife wouldn't? The campgrounds are probably worried more about someone getting bitten or incessant barking so therefore the extra charge. Dogfriendly is a good website to check out on where dogs are welcome, and if they aren't, I simply don't give them my business.

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    Catworker All are welcome to my campfire

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    It's most likely a money thing, Greed. Your pets were their excuse. DW and traveled to VA in July 2004. We paid $22 per night to camp at Newport News City Park Campground. We are going back this summer for a family reunion. Same park, same facilities. We will be paying $32 per night. That's a pretty big price jump in just 5 years.

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    The parks are trying to raise money any way they can do to buget cuts. i think its wrong this time when you need people to come to the park not run them off upper mang is out of touch.
     
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    Either they are trying to increase revenue - OR -trying to discourage dogs in the parks. Maybe both? I have yet to hear a story about the quiet, well behaved dog at the CG, because you don't even know that it is there. We all have heard or have our own story about the yappy ____, ---,____ dog that virtually ruined the weekend for the loop.

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  7. WV Hillbilly

    WV Hillbilly Terra Alta, West Virginia

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    Well if they are trying to discourage campers with dogs, it worked...you won't see me doing camping in VA. They will also loose the additional money I would have spent in VA! (gas, food, etc) I could see a $5 additional fee per camping trip but $5 per dog per day is crazy. I have 2 minature poodles that are well behaved and will not be ripped off by VA.

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    I learned of the 5 buck pet fee myself on a trip this summer. It is not only for campers. Daytrippers ahve to pay it as well. Seemed like a rip off to me.
     
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    That's steep - no outrageous. IMHO - it basically says don't bring your dogs. Some state parks limit dogs to certain loops in the GC. I understand and support that idea. Non pet owners may prefer to be in a dog free zone.

    I know of a couple of private campgrounds near here that charge for dogs, but not that much.

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    as much as I hate to say it...and camping 95% of the time in Va
    it's not to cover the "campsite messes" as much as the rest of the issues...too many people feel that it's ok for the dog to mess on the side of the road(where we always walk when the new camper is pulling in) and in the public areas....although I don't like it...I do understand that it is brought on by the people that just don't care when they camp....
     
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    It is really sad that we do have to pay that. We have the same problem at Pochontas State Park. We go there because its close to home with the boys playing sports on the weekends. Its an extra 20 to 30 dollars for us. I have been told by some of the park officials that they are at the bottom of the budget list so they are trying to raise more money for the park system. I think its a sad way of doing it by punishing the dogs and there owners. We stay at pet friendly places as much as possible.

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  12. nuthouseinva

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    I think they are trying to create revenue plus keep dog numbers in check. I have two dogs as well as and will take the fee into consideration when I choose where I camp.
    It will definitely keep people from bringing large numbers of dogs which could become bothersome to other campers. People who love their dogs will be more willing pay the fee and people who treat their dogs poorly won't bother, hopefully.
    I personally see every time I go camping someone that brings a litter of puppies and puts them on display (indirectly for sale).
    More than anything though i think its a legal/liability expense that they are trying to mitigate.

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    Im suprised they dont have the fee included on the online reservation site. I completely forgot that I would have to pay for the dog to camp with us after I made my reservations. But I didnt see where I could add to pay for my dog?

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    nuthouseinva Portsmouth, Virginia

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they don't collect the fee at all. Probably depends on the park and ranger.

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    At Claytor Lake they collect it and even ask you if you have paid it.
     
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    Yeah, it is another slap to the face of the camping families of this state. I saw the note as I made my reservasions and then it hit me...

    $20 EXTRA FOR THE DOGS!!!!!!!! D&#% IT!

    For one weekend that is rediculous to say the least. The most it should be is $5 per pet per visit, not per day.

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    I won't be camping in state parks, anymore. The pet fee along with the firewood ban is enough for me to go elsewhere. For every state park in my area, there are 3 National Forest campgrounds.

    We stayed in a State park once last year. Totaling up the pet fee and price of wood per night, it ended up costing us nearly 50 bucks per night for a site with no hook-ups. No thanks. I can stay at a Jellystone or similar for that much money.

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  18. hvac1877

    hvac1877 Old Dominion Iron Chefs Highland Springs, Va

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    well call the state parks HQ if enough people complain maybe they will change it. The power of the peoples voice can get things done. my 2 cents

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    I'll protest with my wallet.....won't be camping in VA anytime soon!

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    hvac1877 Old Dominion Iron Chefs Highland Springs, Va

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    then they dont know you wont spend your money here if you dont tell them by contacting them! here is there email address. If you have a problem with anything instead not spending your money use your voice!!!!!!

    pco@dcr.virginia.gov

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