Vinyl coming apart at the seam

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  1. Michel

    Michel Member

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    Hello,

    One final little glitch that I am trying to fix on the used hybrid that I bought. The vinyl in the back is coming apart at the seam (see photo). Any suggestions as to where and how to fix it? I plan on traveling to Washington State next month (Fall City then Walla Walla) so if there is any place to get it fixed there on my way, that would be great for me to know.

    Many thanks in advance!

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  2. Jayko

    Jayko Jayco 141J aka Big Bertha

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    You may want to visit a local canvas shop. Check google for boat canvas repair or manufacturers.

    I suspect they could recommend the best approach.
     
  3. Michel

    Michel Member

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    I called the local "canvas man" and they told me that I would have to take the vinyl canvas off the trailer to bring it in for them to sew it. That would off course be extremely time consuming and expensive. I am hoping there are simpler options.
     
  4. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    You can do it with a hand-held stitcher. They are about $12 on Amazon. "Speedy Stitcher"


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    Speedy Stitcher
     
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    CDawg Southeastern PA

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    This is a timely thread (no pun intended) for me. On our first trip out this year, we discovered a similar tear in our '99 Coleman Sante Fe. We'll have to take a look at the "Speedy Stitcher."

    Craig in PA
     
  6. bondebond

    bondebond New Member

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    I have used the Speedy Stitcher that BigBaron shows. It works extremely well and is simple enough for me to use. I used some color-matching upholstery thread from JoAnns (felt like a prophet in a foreign land) and haven't had a problem.

    Just line up the existing factory stitching holes and do the lock stitch shown in the included instructions with the awl. I did get smaller sewing needles as the included ones were just too big for the existing holes.
     
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    busdriverwc75 Chester County, PA

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    I'm having a hard time seeing is it a seam that can be sewn coming apart, or is the vinyl pulling out from that white trim piece? On one corner of our Pal the tenting has pulled out from under that trim piece. Ours is metal, & after trying several fixes, I discovered that one of those little metal paint can openers is just the right shape to shove the vinyl back under the trim piece.
     
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    You can do this with the Speedy Stitcher. It's an amazingly useful and easy tool. Not so speedy though.
     
  9. Michel

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    Thanks! I found their site and video: http://www.sailrite.com/Speedy-Stitcher-Sewing-Awl-Kit. What is the best way to sew the two pieces when they are side by side and not overlapping?
     
  10. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    Uh oh....
    My vinyl windows split on the stitch line, so I used some vinyl repair tape and taped the two sides together, then stitched through the tape.
     
  11. Michel

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    That sounds like a great way to do it. Thank you. I will have to try it. I just hope the needle will go through the plastic.
     
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    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    Old_Geezer Well-Known Member

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    That is not the tenting, its the hard plastic molding the tenting is sewed to. Its called J lock. Do you know anyone who has a plastic welding setup?
     
  14. Michel

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    No, have never heard of plastic welding. Who would usually do this type of work?
     
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    I may have found somebody in Kent close to Seattle that does plastic welding. I sent them an e-mail to see if they could do it for me. I will share with the forum what they say. Fingers crossed! It would be nice to get it fixed before it gets any worse.
     
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    Old_Geezer Well-Known Member

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    Can you post so pictures of that area from the outside? It can probably be repaired using a few screws if its where I think it is.
     
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    Unfortunately, I did not take a photo from the outside and the trailer is at an rv repair place. What do you think it is and could be done?
     
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    The J lock is a plastic molding they sew the tenting to. When the tenting is installed they screw through that J lock into the structure and frame of the bunk door. For whatever reason yours is separating/splitting where it is molded into an angle, probably due to the tent shrinking over time. I don't know if its possible to replace just the J lock. You would need to remove the entire tent and take it to a canvas shop. That is if you could even get the J lock by itself, Maybe National Tent and Awning, part of Lippert / Drew Industries.

    More than likely you would need to get the entire tent as assembly, possibly even the entire assembly including the door and frame.

    You did not mention the brand/model of the camper?

    I think I would just live with that. From your picture I think you could just back caulk it and run 2 or 3 screws with washers through the one side of the split into the camper body to keep it from splitting further up the J lock.
     
  19. Michel

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    Thanks! It is an Aerolite 2001 cub. The next trailer that I buy will definitely be new, not used :(
     
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    Old_Geezer, I definitely have to say thank you. I have been googling "J lock" and I have found a few other cases of people who have had the same problem. The best solution seems to be removing the tent canvas, buying a new j lock and then having a canvas specialist sew on the new j lock to the canvas and then put back the canvas.

    A few questions, do you know how difficult it is to remove the canvas? There is an aluminum strip that holds it in place. It is simply a question of unscrewing this and removing the tent end? Will I need a special screwdriver? Is there a sealant to be used when you reattach the tent end? Also, if I take it off this fall and replace it in the spring, will this cause any problems as I store the trailer over the winter?

    Any information and suggestions you could provide would be greatly appreciated!

    Michel
     

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