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Discussion in 'Going to the DARK SIDE' started by Freedom72, May 22, 2016.
After 25 years in Pup's and a couple years in a NYU hybrid, we researched for our best fit for us and bought a 2015 Shamrock 21DK last April.
Must have made a good choice.....everyone else loves it too
Airstream, Arctic Fox, Winnebago, Takena or a restored retro would start our list for consideration.
We went from towing the 8' Coleman Cobalt pup to the 17' Whitewater Retro, which is 8' wide. It was a bit of an adjustment. It took us three tries to find the extension mirrors that worked for us. We ended up adding a video monitor, with a camera on the TT's license plate. We found that vehicles sneak in behind us, plus it helps for merging, backing into a site, etc.
Our 2005 4Runner is rated as 5000# towing capacity and the Retro is about 3200#. The 4Runner coped, we towed it across the country, as well as in the mountains of Colorado. However, we didn't feel like we had enough margin at times, and the wind resistance, even with rounded front and back, seemed to be a big part of that.
We bought a NTU truck this spring, rated to tow 7K#. We've had two trips so far this year, and the truck has done much better. Having towed in 30+ wind gusts whit the 4Runner and 50 mph headwinds with the truck, I can say that - while I definitely hate towing in the wind - the truck was a great change.
Friends of our went from ground camping last year to a Casita, also 17' - but it isn't as wide as the Retro and is rounded all around. They are towing with a 2007 4Runner, and say they'll eventually get a more capable TV, even with the Casita they'd like more margin.
Someone termed the Retro we chose a "couples' trailer", which is about correct. The "island bed" is great - it stays made up, and lifts for lots of storage under it. The dinette does convert, but it would be crowded.
For Thanksgiving, we're meeting our friends with the Casita at a campground - it should be interesting if the weather forces us all inside. We've been in each TT, but haven't had a chance to compare them side by side yet.
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We were thinking of one of those Dodge Sprinter class "B" motorhomes. I believe they use Mercedes as well.
Probably something in the Forest River line
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I really like the winnie drop 170S
It's a new floor plan with a full bath
anybody considering a drop?
I spent a long time drooling over this one. If only money were no object...
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Can I change my vote?
I go with a CTcamper:
Our shortlist includes a similar Keystone Passport ultra lite (238ML bunkhouse), a Rockwood Mini-Lite bunkhouse, or a Jayco Jay Feather bunkhouse. Basically we want a 22-24' bunkhouse, probably with no slideout, with a rear bath opposite the bunks, and a murphy queen bed up front. My Ridgeline is limited to a 5000# tow rating, so I don't want anything bigger than about 4200# dry weight.
This is kindof our ideal floorplan:
FYI - dry weight means nothing
Thanks Freedom, I haven't climbed up on the roof yet but I really like everything about minnie. I haven't seen a drop on the lot yet but I've looked at a lot of pics now that you brought it to my attention. I might have to reevaluate now
I know the dry weight isn't the total amount I'd be towing, I'm trying to allow for several hundred pounds of gear/food. But since "dry weight" or "shipped weight" is usually the only weight they offer, it's a good starting point to set a maximum "dry weight" threshold at several hundred pounds below what my max is.
We have really enjoyed our Retro. The fact that's it's "cute" or "cool" was one of my rewards for having to give up the pup. They aren't as much of an unusual occurrence as even a year ago, but we've had lots of interesting comments about ours, and requests for tours.
Just wanted to remind you to also look into tongue weight. Not sure what your max tongue weight your TV can handle, but I've noticed most units with Murphy beds gave a heavier tongue weight. If all you see is dry tongue weight you have to add the weight on propane tank(s) and battery. Also wanted to throw this out there... if you have a lot of hill/mountains where you like to camp, you may want to look into something a bit lighter than 4200 dry. You could be really taxing your vehical if there are hills.
Max tongue weight on my truck is 600lbs with a WD hitch. Yeah I'm checking that at the same time I'm checking the dry weight.