Which side for manual crank handle?

Grandpa Don

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Sep 5, 2018
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Southern California
I've got the 1/2" in drive DeWalt cordless drill (DCD 780). I'm not sure it'll have enough torque, but we'll see.

I saw your post about the emergency cable extension and I'd love to be able to make one. I've avoided working with wire cables because I don't have a swaging tool to crimp those ferrules. Do you think it would be secure enough using just the screw-on cable clamps?
EDIT: 08/21/2021 I'm not sure my Emergency cable is going to work. There may not be enough cable left to get the top all the way up before the splice reaches the winch. I'm rethinking the whole idea trying to find a way to make it work.
 

RhythmScience

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Jul 26, 2020
64
Hagerstown, MD USA
EDIT: 08/21/2021 I'm not sure my Emergency cable is going to work. There may not be enough cable left to get the top all the way up before the splice reaches the winch. I'm rethinking the whole idea trying to find a way to make it work.
That's a bummer. I wonder, in a pinch, if one could get a winch that clamps onto, say, the TV bumper parked in front of the camper that could be connected to the lift system cable & used to raise the roof. (Of course, you wouldn't be able to drive anywhere without lowering the roof. If there was a conveniently-placed tree, perhaps it could be strapped to that with long cables to run to the battery.)
 

Greg H

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Mar 22, 2019
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Ontario, Canada
Mine’s definitely not wrapped 3 times before tension is put on it, probably closer to 1.5 (though I am going to replace the cable in the off-season due to unrelated wear). You’re probably correct on the rationale for the 3 turns. Nobody is going to guarantee that your situation is completely safe, but keep in mind that this winch is rated to 1200 lbs…you’re likely way under that and the forces on the cable are likely much lower than what the winch is rated for. I’d personally just keep an eye on the cable where it goes through the winch and make sure there isn’t any wear or significant deformation…but I accept no liability for any problems you run into haha. For what it’s worth, changing the cable doesn’t look as daunting as I imagined based on YouTube videos I’ve seen.

Okay fellow manual roof-raisers, I've got my DLB1200A winch from Goshen (they said it would ship on Wed., and I got it on Fri.!) and am getting ready to install. In the Dutton-Lainson instructions, it says not to put any load on the winch without at least three full turns of cable on the reel. With the cable just taught, I've got about a half-turn of cable on the reel (see pic.).


Does anyone know if this is likely to be a problem? Is anyone else's like this? I'm guessing the idea is to keep the tension off where the end of the cable attaches to the side of the reel, but maybe three times around is just them being overly cautious? (I really, really don't want to have to swap out the cable.)
 
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Grandpa Don

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Sep 5, 2018
1,815
Southern California
That's a bummer. I wonder, in a pinch, if one could get a winch that clamps onto, say, the TV bumper parked in front of the camper that could be connected to the lift system cable & used to raise the roof. (Of course, you wouldn't be able to drive anywhere without lowering the roof. If there was a conveniently-placed tree, perhaps it could be strapped to that with long cables to run to the battery.)
Yes, there are ways to make it work. But it's going to take some thinking. I think I got it figured out, but I'm going to have to raise the top again to do some measuring. I just don't feel like that is an important thing to do right now. I'm tired.
 
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Grandpa Don

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Sep 5, 2018
1,815
Southern California
Mine’s definitely not wrapped 3 times before tension is put on it, probably closer to 1.5 (though I am going to replace the cable in the off-season due to unrelated wear). You’re probably correct on the rationale for the 3 turns. Nobody is going to guarantee that your situation is completely safe, but keep in mind that this winch is rated to 1200 lbs…you’re likely way under that and the forces on the cable are likely much lower than what the winch is rated for. I’d personally just keep an eye on the cable where it goes through the winch and make sure there isn’t any wear or significant deformation…but I accept no liability for any problems you run into haha. For what it’s worth, changing the cable doesn’t look as daunting as I imagined based on YouTube videos I’ve seen.
I think I could actually change my Goshen cable on my own in the field. I actually carry a spare cable just in case. But I hope I never have to do it.
 

RhythmScience

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Jul 26, 2020
64
Hagerstown, MD USA
I think I could actually change my Goshen cable on my own in the field. I actually carry a spare cable just in case. But I hope I never have to do it.
The way my Palomino is set up, the center of the fresh water tank goes right under the rear of the list system master tube. I'd have to disconnect and remove the tank before even starting to remove the rear springs and change the cable, which all sounds like a lot of work.

I called Goshen to ask about the short-cable situation. The lift-system guy I spoke with said that the cable should ideally wrap 1 1/2 to 2 times around the reel with the roof down, but that as long as where the cable attaches to the side of the reel is secure it should be okay with only a 1/2 wrap. I'll give it a try and do as Greg H suggested and keep a close eye on it.
 

Grandpa Don

Super Active Member
Sep 5, 2018
1,815
Southern California
The way my Palomino is set up, the center of the fresh water tank goes right under the rear of the list system master tube. I'd have to disconnect and remove the tank before even starting to remove the rear springs and change the cable, which all sounds like a lot of work.

I called Goshen to ask about the short-cable situation. The lift-system guy I spoke with said that the cable should ideally wrap 1 1/2 to 2 times around the reel with the roof down, but that as long as where the cable attaches to the side of the reel is secure it should be okay with only a 1/2 wrap. I'll give it a try and do as Greg H suggested and keep a close eye on it.
I guess I'm lucky. My fresh water tank is mounted inside of the camper. There is nothing in the way of the Master Tube at all. And since I installed a lift kit (axle flip) I now have lots of room to get under there if necessary.
 

RhythmScience

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Jul 26, 2020
64
Hagerstown, MD USA
I guess I'm lucky. My fresh water tank is mounted inside of the camper. There is nothing in the way of the Master Tube at all. And since I installed a lift kit (axle flip) I now have lots of room to get under there if necessary.
It wasn't something I was looking for when shopping for a camper, but mine has the Alko torsion axle that's set up to raise the camper up. My DW has some mobility issues and the two steps up make it a tad harder for her to get in and out of the camper, but I can roll under there with an automotive "creeper" easily. That's made working under the camper loads easier (greasing the master tube, installing shower plumbing, working with wires, etc.).
 




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